Wednesday, September 08, 2004

Another Federal Judge is FOR the MURDER of BABIES

I wish I would never have to post a story like this, but I have to because unfortunately the United States has some Federal Judges who promote and side with the culture of death.

First, I want to state my bias. I am 100% Pro-Life and against abortion in ALL cases, there is NO Exception in my book. Why? Because the God I serve is the God of Life and has told us to Choose Life. Period.

However, I do not condemn anyone who has had an abortion. I have worked with women in my counseling office who have fallen captive to the spirit of the age. The results are devastating and heartbreaking. Which is why stories like this are tragic.

May God have mercy on this country.

Third Federal Judge Rules Against Partial-Birth Abortion Ban

© Stacy L. Harp, 2004



6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, you're saying that if you got raped by someone, (maybe a stranger or worse yet, your father) you would keep the baby?

September 8, 2004 at 3:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ps-- what is your stance on the death penalty?

September 8, 2004 at 3:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, I love your emotive question! So typical! God forbid anyone would be raped, however, how the conception occurs, does not change the fact that it did occur. So the option would be to keep the baby or put him/ her up for adoption.

Your question is like saying, "Ya know the night your parents had sex and conceived, the sex wasn't that great. So because the actual act itself wasn't great or even fulfilling, the outcome - pregnancy - well, we should just terminate that baby because the sex wasnt' good that night." Yours is an argument from emotion and nothing else.

And your question about the death penalty is so common because if you tell me that you're against the death penalty and for abortion, then you have no clue about what justice is.

The death penalty should not be performed on an innocent person - aka a baby in the womb. However, it should be performed when a person has been proven to have committed a crime, worthy of death, beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's how God sees it, and that's how I see it. - Stacy

September 8, 2004 at 3:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you think rape is only unsatisfying sex? Wow, are you misguided. No, thinking that there is (at least) one exception for abortion is not in any way akin to your parents' unsatisfying sex life.

Are you so concerned with how the fetus feels that you have no concern for the mother? How would you like to carry a rapist's baby for nine months? And then offer that baby for adoption? Your arguments are not based in reality.

So, your argument comes from something more than an emotion? What might that be?

I asked about the death penalty because you mentioned the 'culture of death'. How about the untold thousands of innocents killed in George Bush's Iraqi crusade?

Actually, I am for the death penalty and abortion. It's good to hear you know what 'justice' is.

Congratulations.

September 8, 2004 at 4:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
So you think rape is only unsatisfying sex? Wow, are you misguided. No, thinking that there is (at least) one exception for abortion is not in any way akin to your parents' unsatisfying sex life._____

Stacy responds: Your conclusion or what you "heard" is totally off base. Your argument is based on HOW the baby is conceived - your example RAPE. My example, unsatisfied sex. The outcome of either can be a pregnancy and there is no reason why an innocent baby should be murdered because of HOW they were conceived. That's my point.

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Are you so concerned with how the fetus feels that you have no concern for the mother? How would you like to carry a rapist's baby for nine months? And then offer that baby for adoption? Your arguments are not based in reality.
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Stacy responds: I am concerned about mother and baby. IN the long run, abortion is much more harmful to the woman than having the baby and dealing with all that comes with that. You might benefit from hearing Pam Stenzel talk about the issue.
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So, your argument comes from something more than an emotion? What might that be?
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Stacy says:
My argument comes from logic. However, it does have some compassion attached to it because it's not a so called easy fix like misguided people who believe in abortion think. How much research have you read on the subject of post abortive women and how many post abortive women have you counseled?
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I asked about the death penalty because you mentioned the 'culture of death'. How about the untold thousands of innocents killed in George Bush's Iraqi crusade?
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Well, Anonymous, in the future you might want to explain yourself better and be a little more clearer about why you're making the comments you make.

The war on terror is a completely different issue that I will not discuss on this thread because that's not the topic of the thread.

Oh, and explain to me about the untold innocents who were slaughtered under Saddam and put into woodchippers...because of Saddam.
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Actually, I am for the death penalty and abortion. It's good to hear you know what 'justice' is.
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Stacy: So death for innocent babies is okay with you, but innocents dying in a just war isn't. That's a consistent worldview! NOT.

September 8, 2004 at 5:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, Anonymous, in the future you might want to explain yourself better and be a little more clearer about why you're making the comments you make.

-That’s funny, I was going to say the same thing to you. You have a wonderful ability to avoid answering the question, and turn it all back around to justify your own ends.

-I’ll start with the ‘culture of death’ comment (even though you don’t respond to off-topic comments…) My point was, once we get all of these unwanted, uncared for babies in the world, what kind of an example is it to show these children that totally unjustified, illegal attacks on countries is no problem at all? (I know your response is that we don’t have to ‘bow’ to international law, but that is ignorant and conceited. Not only did George Bush not ‘bow’ to international law, he didn’t even conform to US law which states that only Congress can declare war.) This is just feeding into (nee, CREATING) the cycle of violence.

How much research have you read on the subject of post abortive women and how many post abortive women have you counseled?

-It really doesn’t matter how many women I have counseled on this subject—that is totally off topic. I have known women who went through both abortions and rape, (and one unfortunate woman who went through both) and the women who suffered long-term psychological damage were those who were raped. Your argument comparing rape to unsatisfying sex, saying that the end result is the same, is disgusting. Claiming your argument is based on logic is preposterous.

Stacy: So death for innocent babies is okay with you, but innocents dying in a just war isn't. That's a consistent worldview! NOT.

-Aside from your school yard level ‘argument’, we have to face the facts on this one. A fetus is not a baby. They are different things, that’s why there are different words for them. The basis of our disagreement is that you see them as the same thing and I don’t. A cell that has divided a few times is not worth getting all sentimental about.

-And since the discussion has come this far, we might as well discuss the following: do you eat meat? If life is so precious to you, how can you justify that? Or is it only human life you value? Not only are animals bred for food kept in horrible conditions, only to meet a grisly end, but raising livestock is an enormous drain on resources that, considering the immensely booming population on the Earth, cannot be sustained much longer. I’m sure you will have several problems with this last comment, not the least of which will be that I have gone off topic. But, I don’t see it as going off-topic—it is all a part of the ‘culture of death’ that you claim to oppose.

Well, Stacy, this is quite a heated little discussion we have here. Have fun getting all bothered by my comments.

Larry

September 9, 2004 at 2:38 AM  

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